Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Full Trancript of Papal "Airplane" Remarks- Much More Than Sexual Abuse Scandal Here

John Allen has the full a rush transcript of the Pope's remarks on Shepherd One.

The media is talking about the Pope's remarks on Clergy Sexual Abuse. But there is a ton here. Including perhaps something that might raise some eyebrows lol. People should be aware that the Pope knew the questions before hand because they asked various reporters to submit them. The fact that Pope is picking these reporters and these questions out of the entire Press pool is significant

As to immigration, I was shocked that so many reporters on TV said they were caught off guard on this. His remarks are very interesting:
Lombardi::
Thank you, Your Holiness. Another theme upon which we had many questions from our colleagues was that of immigration, reflecting the growing presence of Hispanics in the society of the United States. We’ll have a question from our colleague Andres Beltramo, from the Notimex agency in Mexico.

Beltramo:
I’ll ask the question in Italian, but we would love to have just a greeting in Spanish. With the enormous growth in the Hispanic presence, the Catholic church in the United States is becoming steadily more bilingual and bicultural. Yet there’s also a growing “anti-immigrant” movement in America. Do you intend to invite the United States to welcome immigrants well, many of whom are Catholic?

Benedict XVI:

Unfortunately I’m not ready to speak in Spanish, but I offer a greeting and blessing for all the Spanish-speakers! Certainly I’ll talk about this subject. I recent had the ad limina visit from the bishops of Central America, also South America. I saw the scope of this problem, above all the grave problem of the separation of families. This is truly dangerous for the social, human and moral fabric of these countries.It seems to me that we have to distinguish between measures to be taken immediately, and longer-term solutions. The fundamental solution [would be] that there is no longer any need to immigrate, that there are sufficient opportunities for work and a sufficient social fabric that no one any longer feels the need to immigrate.

We all have to work for this objective, that social development is sufficient so that citizens are able to contribute to their own future.On this point, I want to speak with the President, because above all the United States must help countries develop themselves. Doing so is in the interests of everyone, not just this country but the whole world, including the United States.In the short term, it’s very important above all to help the families. This is the primary objective, to ensure that families are protected, not destroyed. Whatever can be done, must be done. Naturally, we have to do whatever’s possible against economic insecurity, against all the forms of violence, so that they can have a worthy life.I’d like also to say that although there are many problems, so much suffering, there’s also much hospitality [in America.] I know that the bishops’ conference in America collaborates a great deal with the Latin American bishops’ conference. Together they work to help priests, laity and so on. With so many painful things, it’s also important not to forget much good

I would suggest beside the fact that this brings up the illegal alien issue, the immigration family reunification issue, I think his long term views should be of interest. That brings up all sort of things such as Trade agreements etc

Moving on

Lombardi::
Thank you, Your Holiness. Now we’ll have a question that refers to American society, the place of religious values in American society, from our colleague Andrea Tornielli, the Vatican writer of the newspaper Il Giornale.

Tornielli:
Holy Father, in receiving the new ambassador of the United States of America, you cast in a positive light the public value of religion in the United States. I’d like to ask if you consider this a possible model also for secularized Europe? Also, is there also a risk that religion and the name of God can be abused for supporting a certain political stance, including war?

Benedict XVI:

Certainly we can’t simply copy the United States. We have our own history, and we must learn from each other.What I find fascinating about the United States is that they began with a positive concept of secularism. This new people was composed of communities and people who had separated from state churches, and they wanted to have a secular state which would open possibilities for all the confessions and all the forms of religious expression. It was an expressly secular state, and it was directly opposed to a state-church. It was secular precisely out of love of religion, for the authenticity of religion, which could be lived only in freedom. Thus we find a state that’s expressly secular, but favorable to religion in order to give it authenticity.We know that the public institutions in America, albeit secular, draw on a de facto moral consensus that exists among the citizens. This seems to me fundamental and positive to consider, also in Europe. But in the meantime, more than 200 years of history have passed with so many developments. Also in the United States, they’ve had a new form of secularization, a new secularism, which is entirely different. They also have new problems, such as immigration, the “Wasp” ideology, and all these problems.

The situation has become complicated and differentiated in the course of history, but the fundamental idea seems to me even today worthy of being observed.

Lombardi:: Thank you, Your Holiness. Now we’ll have the last question, dealing with the theme of the visit to the United Nations. It will be asked by John Thavis, the bureau chief in Rome of the Catholic News Service
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Now notice it appears to me that he did not bite on the war question. I do wonder if Pope Benedict has opened up a slight can of worms with describing the "Wasp" ideology as a problem. I am not sure exactly what he means by that but I got to think it shall be explored.

I am not sure when reading the transcript what the Pope exactly means when he says "But in the meantime, more than 200 years of history have passed with so many developments. "Also in the United States, they’ve had a new form of secularization, a new secularism, which is entirely different. It is not clear if the Pope is talking about a new negative Secularism( in oppostion to the postive one he just mentioned) that he sees developing or is going back to talking about the founding secualrism he likes. I think because he is talking about 200 years of history passing that he referencing a new form of secularism that perhaps he does nto like. Many Americans would agree

There is more at the transcript but this caught my attention

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