Thursday, October 6, 2011

Confirmed - Joel Osteen Is An National Ecumenical Christian Embarrassment And Problem

I have never been one of these Joel Osteen bashers. Part of that is that I am Catholic and perhaps I should not be commenting too much on the developments in the Evangelical world beyond a natural theological curiosity. Further I like Joel Osteen. I don't think he is in his heart or in reality one of these Christian TV evangelical shysters .

However being in Houston no doubt he is spreading error to a good many Catholics that become part of his congregation. But there is a bigger problem. He might be through his action or to be blunt throught his inaction spreading error now as to what even Catholics and Evangelicals hold in common.

I have given Osteen every chance but Baptist Al Mohler has well just nailed him after the disaster of a Piers Morgan interview we saw this week. See Dragged Kicking and Screaming into the Modern Age? Lessons from Piers Morgan’s Interview with Joel Osteen. I don't care what you think about State execution , abortion or gay marriage but MAMA MIA does Mohler get this part right:

..Then, the conversation shifted to issues in the news, such as abortion and capital punishment. On both topics, Piers Morgan pressed Joel to speak clearly, which he was clearly reluctant to do. On both topics, Osteen steered clear of disaster by saying as little as possible, in what can only be described as a garble.

On capital punishment: “You know, it’s a complicated issue, Piers. I haven’t thought a whole lot about it but, of course, you know, and I’m for second chances and mercy, yet, the flip side is there’s consequences for what we’ve done and, so, I — I don’t know what my total stance is . . . ”

On a moral link between abortion and capital punishment: “Well, I think there could be when you say may or may not. You know, that’s the troublesome thing, if we don’t know for sure and, you know.”

There, that clears it all up nicely. The saddest thing about Joel Osteen’s incoherence on all this is the fact that he seems to be totally unaware that Christians have been engaging these issues seriously for centuries. When even Piers Morgan chided Osteen for his fuzziness and lack of an answer to questions, saying to Osteen, “you need to be more definitive,” Osteen responded: “Yes. Well, if I could I would but I’d have to — let me study it and I’ll come back with a great answer someday for you.” Not exactly a “here I stand” moment, to say the very least.

Good grief I am cringing for him now. Then when it got to same sex marriage as you can see in Mohler's piece it got far worse.


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