Wednesday, January 14, 2009

WHy Can't Israel Make Peace With Hamas Like the Brits and the IRA Did?

Rod Dreher has a good post on this and injects I think some needed realism at Why Israel can't make peace with Hamas

As he points out the situation with Hamas and Israel is a tad different that the UK and Northern Ireland. I mean in reality what was going on in the Mother Country had to little to do with the Pope and such.

I mean I think Israel making peace with Hamas (in its current form) is like asking Blacks to make peace with the KKK. In fact the U.S. Government did something similar with radical elements in the South via President Grant and it resulted in pretty much making former Slaves that became citizens back to second class subjects again. But hey at least there was peace and white Americans could get back to their leisure activity again. I guess the world wants in a similar way not to be bothered. We surely were not bothered by all these rockets that were being launched into Israel the last two years that were getting closer and closer to Tel Aviv Americans were much more concerned about Gov Palin's new soon to be grand child. Why do these Jews have to cause such commotion.

Anyway the issue becomes frustrating because people wish to put you all in one camp or the other. I have criticized Isarel numerous times on this blog.

But this Israeli Newspaper article caught my eye and has sort of convinced me that at this moment (I think there needs to be a clear objective) what Israel is doing is correct.

To many abroad, the picture could not be clearer: Israel’s war in Gaza is a wildly disproportionate response to the rockets of Hamas, causing untold human suffering, bombing an already isolated and impoverished population into the Stone Age, and it must be stopped. But here in Israel, very few among the Jewish population see it that way.
How can a war that looks so awful - in which a civilian crowd near a United Nations school was hit, killing several dozen, and Red Cross workers were denied access to scores of dead and wounded for days, causing global outrage - be supported by such a vast Israeli public?
Since Israeli warplanes opened the assault on Gaza 18 days ago, voices of dissent in this country have been rare. And while tens of thousands have poured into the streets of world capitals demonstrating against the Israeli military operation, rallies here have been lucky to draw 1,000 participants. The Peace Now organization has received many messages from supporters telling it to stay out of the streets on this one.....................


Boaz Gaon, a playwright and peace activist, said he found it deeply depressing how the Israeli public has embraced the military’s arguments in explaining the deaths of civilians. But he is angry at Hamas not only for what it has done to its own people and civilians in the south but for its impact on the Israeli left. “Hamas has pushed Israeli thinking back 30 years,” he said. “It has killed the peace camp.”

But [Moshe] Halbertal [a left-leaning professor of philosophy at the Hebrew University] takes quite seriously the existential threat that Hamas poses and that issue affects him in his judgments of the war.
“Rockets from Hamas could eventually reach all of Israel,” he said. “This is not a fantasy. It is a real problem. So there is gap between actual images on the screen and the geopolitical situation. You have Al Jazeera standing at Shifa Hospital and the wounded are coming in. So you have this great Goliath crushing these poor people and they are perceived as victims. But from the Israeli perspective Hamas and Hezbollah are really the spearhead of a whole larger threat that is invisible. Israelis feel like the tiny David faced with an immense Muslim Goliath. The question is: Who is the David here?”
The writer A.B. Yehoshua, who opposes Israel’s occupation and promotes a Palestinian state, has spent the past two weeks trying to explain the war to foreigners. “Imagine, I tell a French reporter, that every two days a missile falls in the Champs-Élysées and only the glass windows of the shops break and five people suffer from shock,” Yehoshua told a reporter at Yediot Ahronot newspaper. “What would you say? Wouldn’t you be angry? Wouldn’t you send missiles at Belgium if it were responsible for missiles on your grand boulevard
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Israel has a vocal and powerful Left. They also have a powerful peace movement. They are very sincere. Once these voices start saying stuff like this then I listen. By the way there is NO HAMAS PEACE MOVEMENT.

2 comments:

Carlos Echevarria said...

Do you really think we can have an accomadation with a group that just last week said the crucifiction for Christians in Gaza is ok????????????

Cardinal Martino is a joke, sorry but he also denounced the US when we captured Saddam.

As Roman Catholic I am more concerned for the state of Israel than the 78% of Jews who voted for Obama stateside. (the expat vote in Israel went for McCain by 65%)

James H said...

I agree. I think Hamas has to be out of the picture. The fact that the PA is on the sidelines and I suspect helping Israel getting rid of their rivals is telling