Thursday, April 16, 2009

Baffling Move By The National Coalition of Latino Clergy & Christian Leaders On Census!!

Immigration restrictionist Mark Krikorian (He is not just against the illegals) is cheering some news from a very unlikely sourse. I have to admit I am baffled by this move.

Bring It On! [Mark Krikorian]
I almost didn't link to this story, because I don't want to jinx it, but it was in USA Today, so I guess the cat's out of the bag:
Hispanic groups call for Census boycott
Some Hispanic advocacy groups are calling for illegal immigrants to boycott the 2010 Census unless immigration laws are changed. The move puts them at odds with leading immigrant rights advocates and creates another hurdle in the Census Bureau's quest to count everyone in the USA.
The National Coalition of Latino Clergy & Christian Leaders, a group that says it represents 20,000 evangelical churches in 34 states, issued a statement this week urging undocumented immigrants not to fill out Census forms unless Congress passes "genuine immigration reform."
Similar grass-roots campaigns are unfolding in Arizona and New Mexico to protest state and local crackdowns on illegal immigrants. Asking immigrants to be counted without giving them a chance to become legal residents counters church teachings, says the Rev. Miguel Rivera, president of the Latino religious coalition.


I don't know that the Fathers of the Church taught anything about the subject, but in any case, this is fine with me. It's like Cleavon Little holding a gun to his own head in Blazing Saddles, except the joke's on them. The exclusion of illegal aliens is something FAIR unsuccessfully sued to prevent in 1980 and 1990 (the courts said they lacked standing, if I remember correctly), because their inclusion distorts the apportionment of seats in the House of Representatives and the state legislatures. The inclusion of illegals in the count is a large part of the reason Democrats control the California legislature, for instance, because their districts have few voters but lots of illegals. Which is the reason for this quote:................

This is so strange and I do understand the reasoning of the latino Pastors at all. In fact all that will happen is that the states will have less money to handle vitial services (needed for the poor legal or illegal alike). Further this tightening of funds will increase hostility toward illegal alines and those families of mixed legal status.

No matter what side you are on the issue this seems bizaree. I mean the Tanton Groups could not have crafted a better idea as we see in Mark's response. Weird

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Someone please explain to me why this is a "social justice issue".

Also explain to me at what point do the actions of the illegal alien become "just"

James H said...

Well I think it is a social justice issue because

Of the whole nature of immigration. For decades we have had pretty much turned a blind eye toward illegal immigration as they help build our economy

We now have a huge number of peole of families of mixed Legal status. That is families where the children are American citizens

There are other aspects.

In effect the social justice side is that the "justice" cannot be all on one side as it were.

I for one have endored plans that I think respect all sides of the equation that is closest to Catholic Social teaching as to immigration reform

Something that would

Deport millions in the end
Make real sanctions on Employers
Increase border security
and deal humanly with those that are here. Especially those of mixed legal status

So I think we are talking about all sort of Social Justice matters that are difficult and Catholics must graple with

Anonymous said...

Drug trafficers across the boarder also help grow the mexican economy and drug sales in america help our underground economy. Is amnesty for them a justice issue also?

James H said...

"Drug trafficers across the boarder also help grow the mexican economy and drug sales in america help our underground economy. Is amnesty for them a justice issue also?"

No fo couse not and as was proposed people that had criminal backgrounds like that were to be deported and not given any benefit

Anonymous said...

Yes, I agree and was being extreme to make a point. I guess what I am fishing for is, philosphically, in assigning "social justice" what makes one violator of the law more viturous than the other. Why is the illegal alien violator of the law considered "put upon" and ascribed social virtue and the drug trafficer, making a living for his family too, still ascribed villan status. What line of logic are you using?

James H said...

Yes, I agree and was being extreme to make a point. I guess what I am fishing for is, philosphically, in assigning "social justice" what makes one violator of the law more viturous than the other. Why is the illegal alien violator of the law considered "put upon" and ascribed social virtue and the drug trafficer, making a living for his family too, still ascribed villan status. What line of logic are you using?


You exactly get to the ppoint. I mean if we are to be just we should go in an enact legislation to punish every American with heavy sanctiion that hired a illegal alien

We are not going to do that and thus Justice must be fair

I mean i know about ten people personally that got their property repaired by illegal aliens they hired are now screaming about them after Katrina

Lets be "just" how many years should they spend in jail for the deporation of illegals and seperating of families.

I mean Just is Just

T.L. Winslow said...

The age-old U.S.-Mexico border problem can never be solved. Why? Because the border IS the problem. The solution that has been there all along is to dissolve the border and megamerge the two countries, with mass 2-way migration equalizing development and opportunies. I already thought it out and published a Web article, check it out.

http://tlwinslow.weebly.com/megamerge-the-dissolution-solution.html