Wednesday, June 17, 2009

National Catholic Reporter Op-Ed Show True Radical Agenda as to the Priesthood

I wanted to add something to this post I did this morning at National Catholic Reporter Attacks Year of the Priest

I think the importance of this article is that it shows the true radical agenda of NCR and others. The issue in the background is of course a Female Priesthood.

It is not noted but the theology and the efforts by Catholics dissidents to try to have a Catholic female Priesthood is very different from Protestant circles. For instance on the whole it does not appear that Anglican Female "Priests" wish to destroy the role of the Bishop, Priest, or Deacon.

It has been my experience that the movers and shakers in the female Catholic Priesthood movement want to do that. They don't just want to become female priests. They want to radically remake the Church.

This article shows that agenda

I hate to be the one to inform him, but Eucharist, mission and church existed long before the rise of priesthood. .....

Perhaps the pope has forgotten that Jesus was not focused on priesthood. He was focused on ministry......

It was only later that we begin to see the emergence of a formal ministry structure and corresponding terminology as the followers of Jesus were influenced and integrated into the Roman Empire. It is not until 215 A.D. that we have evidence of an ordination ritual for bishop, priest and deacon..........

The emergence of the clerical structure eventually led to a division of the Christian faithful into “clergy” and “laity.”.........

After the rise of ordination and priesthood, there develops a hierarchical order among the faithful. The word “ordination” derives from the Latin “ordinare” which means “to create order.” It developed from the Roman usage of the words “ordines” that referred to the classes of people in Rome according to their eligibility for government positions.............

Now this is all radical. In fact one wonders why this writer does not become a Baptist.

To say the least this is all very easily dismissed.

Ignatius of Antioch writing in the first Century is talking about Bishops, Priests and Deacons all the over place as he is being taken to Rome to be killed.

"See that ye all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as ye would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is[administered] either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. It is not lawful without the bishop either to baptize or to celebrate a love-feast; but whatsoever he shall approve of, that is also pleasing to God, so that everything that is done may be secure and valid."Ignatius of Antioch,Epistle to the Smyraens,8 (c.A.D. 110),in ANF,I:89-90.

Clement of Rome:
"And thus preaching through countries and cities, they appointed the first-fruits [of their labours], having first proved them by the Spirit, to be bishops and deacons of those who should afterwards believe. Nor was this any new thing, since indeed many ages before it was written concerning bishops and deacons. For thus saith the Scripture a certain place, 'I will appoint their bishops s in righteousness, and their deacons in faith.
"Our apostles also knew, through our Lord Jesus Christ, and there would be strife on account of the office of the episcopate. For this reason, therefore, inasmuch as they had obtained a perfect fore-knowledge of this, they appointed those [ministers] already mentioned, and afterwards gave instructions, that when these should fall asleep, other approved men should succeed them in their ministry."Clement of Rome,Pope,1st Epistle to the Corinthians,44:1-2 (c.A.D. 96),in ANF,I:17.

Ignatius again

"For what is the bishop but one who beyond all others possesses all power and authority, so far as it is possible for a man to possess it, who according to his ability has been made an imitator of the Christ Of God? And what is the presbytery but a sacred assembly, the counsellors and assessors of the bishop? And what are the deacons but imitators of the angelic powers, fulfilling a pure and blameless ministry unto him, as ... Anencletus and Clement to Peter?"Ignatius,To the Trallians,7(A.D. 110),in ANF,I:69.

"Since therefore I have, in the persons before mentioned, beheld the whole multitude of you in faith and love, I exhort you to study to do all things with a divine harmony, while your bishop presides in the place of God, and your presbyters in the place of the assembly of the apostles, along with your deacons, who are most dear to me, and are entrusted with the ministry of Jesus Christ, who was with the Father before the beginning of time, and in the end was revealed. Do ye all then, imitating the same divine conduct, pay respect to one another, and let no one look upon his neighbour after the flesh, but do ye continually love each other in Jesus Christ. Let nothing exist among you that may divide you ; but be ye united with your bishop, and those that preside over you, as a type and evidence of your immortality."Ignatius of Antioch,Epistle to the Magnesians,6(A.D. 110),in ANF,I:61

"For, since ye are subject to the bishop as to Jesus Christ, ye appear to me to live not after the manner of men, but according to Jesus Christ, who died for us, in order, by believing in His death, ye may escape from death. It is therefore necessary that, as ye indeed do, so without the bishop ye should do nothing, but should also be subject to the presbytery, as to the apostle of Jesus Christ, who is our hope, in whom, if we live, we shall [at last] be found. It is fitting also that the deacons, as being [the ministers] of the mysteries of Jesus Christ, should in every respect be pleasing to all. For they are not ministers of meat and drink, but servants of the Church of God. They are bound, therefore, to avoid all grounds of accusation [against them], as they would do fire."Ignatius of Antioch,Epistle to the Trallians,2(A.D. 110),in ANF,I:67

This is just a small sampling. So needless to say I think we can say that above writer is off her rocker.

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