Unsettled Christianity had his reaction to the gay marriage issue after the North Carolina vote at Some thoughts on the gay marriage stuff from this week
I am not quite that cynical. This is partly because I think we live more and more in a age where the "party bosses" don't control the show as nearly as much they did.
So I think there are many many more people of good will on each side of the same sex marriage divide that are serious about this than the people Joel talks about.
The issue of gay marriage either pro or con is in my view being driven by below rather than above at certain opportune moments for the party.
On that note Rod Dreher has a good post up at Some Burkean Thoughts on SSM. That is an argument for going slow on same sex marriage that are non religious.
Rod's post I think is the explaination in part of what the phrase "Civilization depends on the health of the traditional family" uttered by many social conservatives means. They just can't explain it very well which is not a shock in this age of liberal arts education being in such decay.
Wednesday, May 16, 2012
Burkean ( Non Religious ) Reasons To Take It Slow On Same Sex Marriage
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The Drehger article is pretty good, and brings up some points I agree with, and some I don't.
Religious arguments SHOULD be brought up, and they ARE convincing to people on a personal level. However, on a legal level, Leviticus is not a feasible reason why Person X should not be able to marry Person Y.
But the "taking it slow" point is good for ALL POINTS OF VIEW INVOLVED.
Even if some court threw out all gay marriage bans tomorrow, the people would not accept it. Look how long it took Americans to accept black equality after the end of slavery! Changing the culture by government fiat is rarely effective.
Which is why those handful of gay marriage states are so important. If, in 5 years, it becomes obvious that the church sovereignty was not negatively effected and the doomsday scenarios didn't occur, then people will be more likely to accept some sort of legal recognition in OTHER states.
Or that is how it seems to me, anyway...
It will be ionteresting to see what happens. Of course I guess at this point we are not sure how many gay marriages there will be or if it will peak .
Eve Tushnest thinks the number might be quite low.
I am kinda of watching to see if there will be a trend toward Hetro civil unions like we have seen somewhat in Europe.
THere is a lot in flow
It will be ionteresting to see what happens. Of course I guess at this point we are not sure how many gay marriages there will be or if it will peak .
Eve Tushnest thinks the number might be quite low.
I am kinda of watching to see if there will be a trend toward Hetro civil unions like we have seen somewhat in Europe.
THere is a lot in flow
The religious principles of marriage have been on the decline for the past 50 to 100 years, and therefore an increasing majority are not likely to listen to the religious argument.
While the non-religious argument may win some minds, we must redouble our efforts to win more hearts.
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